Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethical?

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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby Horizon » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:12 pm

snowyowl wrote:I estimate that a human body uses about 100W of power on average. That's 700 gigawatts for the human race's metabolisms. Add an order of magnitude or so to power our cars, lights, and other tech.

Snowy, I'ma stop you right there. You are using the wrong unit. Watts are a unit for transfer over time, joules are a unit of energy, e.g. A battery's lifespan is determined by how many joules are left in it.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby Globus » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:47 am

What's wrong with a human body using 100 Joules per second on average?
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby Horizon » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:51 pm

Nothing, I just felt like being a smartass. That's all.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby snowyowl » Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:39 am

Horizon wrote:
snowyowl wrote:I estimate that a human body uses about 100W of power on average. That's 700 gigawatts for the human race's metabolisms. Add an order of magnitude or so to power our cars, lights, and other tech.

Snowy, I'ma stop you right there. You are using the wrong unit. Watts are a unit for transfer over time, joules are a unit of energy, e.g. A battery's lifespan is determined by how many joules are left in it.

My reasoning is questionable, but I definitely used the right unit. A normal human diet is 2000 kilocalories per day. That energy should get consumed and then burned relatively quickly - even if you're starving / overstuffing yourself, you can't keep it up forever.

An animal body is not comparable to a battery. It's more like an engine that needs to be refuelled every so often. It makes sense to talk about the amount of fuel currently stored in the engine, but here, we're considering the environmental impact of the engine, so it's more relevant to this conversation to talk about the rate at which that fuel is consumed.

And 2000 kilocalories per day = 8.3 megajoules per day = 100 watts, which is where I got the figure you quoted from.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby Horizon » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:36 pm

I know. What I said was stupid. We all do stupid things. My bad.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby doctor100 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:00 pm

Unforgivable!
Particularly considerign that so much of morality is emotional based 'not to hurt people' 'don't be mean' 'build community' 'listen' 'be humble', a logical answer doesn't present itself, the problems exist in an emotional framework.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby Horizon » Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:21 pm

Et tu, doctor? Quid volis vituperare ego? Ego sum non asinus.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby doctor100 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:45 pm

Ego non intellego latina.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby Alex Starkiller » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:48 pm

I only understand a little Latin. So I got everything said recently, except Horizon's second sentence.
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Re: Is destruction of an object of value inherently unethica

Postby Globus » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:40 am

Erm... how many insults did I let fly? My guess anyway.
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