0018 -- Utilitarian Value of Entertainment

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Re: 0018 -- Utilitarian Value of Entertainment

Postby Killjoy » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:35 pm

Given her behaviors, I'd say the burden of proof is on those who would claim that Zoa isn't a person.

This future is not so nice.


Where did TS state that she's not a person? Did he state this as his view, or as the view of this dystopian society we're getting a look at?
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Re: 0018 -- Utilitarian Value of Entertainment

Postby Darkfeather21 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:54 pm

Killjoy wrote:Given her behaviors, I'd say the burden of proof is on those who would claim that Zoa isn't a person.

This future is not so nice.


Where did TS state that she's not a person? Did he state this as his view, or as the view of this dystopian society we're getting a look at?


Dunno about everyone else, but to me, his choice of referring to Zoa as It instead of They or She is what told me that he considers them to not be a person.
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Re: 0018 -- Utilitarian Value of Entertainment

Postby Killjoy » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:42 am

Darkfeather21 wrote:
Killjoy wrote:Given her behaviors, I'd say the burden of proof is on those who would claim that Zoa isn't a person.

This future is not so nice.


Where did TS state that she's not a person? Did he state this as his view, or as the view of this dystopian society we're getting a look at?


Dunno about everyone else, but to me, his choice of referring to Zoa as It instead of They or She is what told me that he considers them to not be a person.



That's not unreasonable, but I'm also trying to be fair to TS and make sure I'm not jumping to conclusions.
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Re: 0018 -- Utilitarian Value of Entertainment

Postby Darkfeather21 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:17 pm

Killjoy wrote:
Darkfeather21 wrote:
Killjoy wrote:Given her behaviors, I'd say the burden of proof is on those who would claim that Zoa isn't a person.

This future is not so nice.


Where did TS state that she's not a person? Did he state this as his view, or as the view of this dystopian society we're getting a look at?


Dunno about everyone else, but to me, his choice of referring to Zoa as It instead of They or She is what told me that he considers them to not be a person.



That's not unreasonable, but I'm also trying to be fair to TS and make sure I'm not jumping to conclusions.


That is also reasonable. As far as I've noticed, he has not stated outright whether he considers Zoa to be a person or not, just that in universe they are not considered one.
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Re: 0018 -- Utilitarian Value of Entertainment

Postby GruntBlender » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:57 am

robertliguori wrote:
Killjoy wrote:
dr pepper wrote:Hmm. Maybe they should skip the video for now and see if they can come up with a better career for Zoa so it won't be constantly on the edge of starvation.


Not to mention one where Zoa won't be forced to choose between sucking dicks or starving.


But what if those careers don't exist?

I mean, I think we can infer that there's not likely to be a lot of capturable value in, e.g., attending webinars and building skills, because apparently anyone can spin up an AI to do anything like that.

Horrifyingly, it may well be that Zoa has settled on Sexbot as a career not because she's cheap, but because the actual service she is selling is "You don't have to confront what it means about yourself that you actually own a sexbot, while getting access to a sexbot.", to people who could easily get their own Zoa as easily as any of us could get a random appliance that we wanted.

But in a world with an economy with cycles to spare for by-the-second interest accumulation and depreciation, it seems really unlikely that there are large pools of marginal value uncaptured. The horror might be not that Zoa has slipped through the cracks and is doing her own thing (what with the nearly-running-out-of-power), but that this legitimately is the best chance she has at earning credits, and that a slight shift in people either wanting fewer robotic blowjobs (or more robotic blowjobs, and not having any shame about owning a sexbot) would lead to her being terminated and repurposed.


Latest comic seems to suggest Zoa actually wants to dicks. She's been offered 90 credits to watch the cartoons, no dick sucking necessary, but she still seems keen on that dick. Have we considered that she might actually be doing what she loves, and the income is incidental?
So yes, this robot is an autonomous nonspecified service provider; a mechanical day-labourer, if you will. In theory, you could rent it to rub your back or prepare your lunch or mow your lawn. In practice, it primarily gives blowjobs.

Presumably more people would be in need of a maid service than a blowjob, considering the near-ubiquity of human tendencies to pair up and be lazy. Zoa presumably chooses which notices to respond to. Preliminary conclusion: succ is life.
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