0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

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0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

Postby dr pepper » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:21 am

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Re: 0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

Postby dr pepper » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:39 am

Over the decades, there have been several science fiction stories that postulate a sort of pathologized industrial economy. It is a system in which there is no capitalism, entrepreneurialism, communism, socialism, or anything else that could adapt or change. There is only production and consumption, and a strong fear among the leadership that the slightest disturbance could cause everything to collapse.

Some stories feature people who would like to see the collapse as it would at least be a way out, despite that horrendous death toll expected. Some feature characters that deliberately trigger the collapse.

Others are about the extreme measures taken to prevent collapse. I remember one in which high status individuals are those who are free to live simply and frugally, while the rest have quotas of fancy clothing, housing, bejeweled accessories, and so forth that they must use.

And one variant of this theme involves the use of constant limited war as a way to soak up the excess production. I wonder if that's what's going on here.
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Re: 0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

Postby tenshiko » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:36 pm

Tailsteak my guy I cut you a lot of slack but there is a robots rights abuse war right on the horizon.
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Re: 0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

Postby MarkGyver » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:40 pm

dr pepper wrote:And one variant of this theme involves the use of constant limited war as a way to soak up the excess production. I wonder if that's what's going on here.


While I view war very much as a last resort, I view competition as a great use of surplus resources. As long as it's reasonably balanced, competition will spur all sides to improve to gain advantage and to nullify their opponents' advantage. The problem is when you start killing people, destroying livelihoods, and so forth.
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Re: 0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

Postby snowyowl » Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:28 pm

MarkGyver wrote:While I view war very much as a last resort, I view competition as a great use of surplus resources. As long as it's reasonably balanced, competition will spur all sides to improve to gain advantage and to nullify their opponents' advantage. The problem is when you start killing people, destroying livelihoods, and so forth.

Is there a qualitative difference between the two? Bombing the enemy's ports into rubble is an excellent way of gaining advantage over them, and it spurs innovation in the form of better anti-aircraft defences. It's not entirely unlike devaluing a rival corporation's product with a well-placed advertising campaign. While competition between megacorporations doesn't directly kill anyone, it's certainly destroyed livelihoods.

Msr. Caratta from today's strip has killed people, but the waste of money and time apparently weighs on their mind today.
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Re: 0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

Postby Piomicron » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:39 pm

snowyowl wrote:
MarkGyver wrote:While I view war very much as a last resort, I view competition as a great use of surplus resources. As long as it's reasonably balanced, competition will spur all sides to improve to gain advantage and to nullify their opponents' advantage. The problem is when you start killing people, destroying livelihoods, and so forth.

Is there a qualitative difference between the two? Bombing the enemy's ports into rubble is an excellent way of gaining advantage over them, and it spurs innovation in the form of better anti-aircraft defences. It's not entirely unlike devaluing a rival corporation's product with a well-placed advertising campaign. While competition between megacorporations doesn't directly kill anyone, it's certainly destroyed livelihoods.

Msr. Caratta from today's strip has killed people, but the waste of money and time apparently weighs on their mind today.


The difference is if you see people's lives as inherently worthy and infinitely precious, the toll of killing is high.
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Re: 0115 - Suboptimal resource allocation

Postby strange7person » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:43 pm

snowyowl wrote:
MarkGyver wrote:While I view war very much as a last resort, I view competition as a great use of surplus resources. As long as it's reasonably balanced, competition will spur all sides to improve to gain advantage and to nullify their opponents' advantage. The problem is when you start killing people, destroying livelihoods, and so forth.

Is there a qualitative difference between the two? Bombing the enemy's ports into rubble is an excellent way of gaining advantage over them, and it spurs innovation in the form of better anti-aircraft defences. It's not entirely unlike devaluing a rival corporation's product with a well-placed advertising campaign. While competition between megacorporations doesn't directly kill anyone, it's certainly destroyed livelihoods.

Msr. Caratta from today's strip has killed people, but the waste of money and time apparently weighs on their mind today.

"Kills" could refer to disabling unmanned vehicles.
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